i don't believe in religion, but it's one thing to say this is a religion you're born into, you grow up in it, it's another thing to convince somebody to believe in a new religion like this. how do they do it? >> a lot of it preys on narcissism. it's a period in self mastery and you'll reach a level of god-like status, be able to move through space and time and be a member of all your alien souls that possess your body and free yourself from this skyify imprisonment. in early levels, it works where you have electrified hypnosis sessions. it focuses on you and your past lives, you're told you're you a good like creature. you become more and more insulated, watched guided by scientologists themselves. they have handlers. they also specifically direct themselves to acquire celebrities. that's been a policy ever since l. ron exploded. even elvis presley turned down scientology. they try to cater it to celebrities. celebrities get a very different flavor and brand. they're insulated from a lot of the nasty year aspect of it, they've got the money and can move up the pyramid quicker than o